Joint LID-QMS/LIBS meeting

Europe/Berlin
ENEA

ENEA

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Participants
Participants
  • Anna Widdowson
  • Antti Hakola
  • David Douai
  • Gabriele Gervasini
  • Gennady Sergienko
  • Giorgio Maddaluno
  • Ionut Jepu
  • Jari Likonen
  • Jelena Butikova
  • Jogi Indrek
  • laura Laguardia
  • Lidia Baiamonte
  • Mathilde Diez
  • Miroslaw Zlobinski
  • Pavel Veis
  • Pawel GASIOR
  • Rongxing yi
  • SAHITHYA ATIKUKKE
  • Sanath Shetty
  • stephane VARTANIAN
  • Yevhen Zayachuk
    • 09:00 11:25
      Session 1: Introductions
      • 09:00
        Local introduction/housekeeping 15m
        Speaker: Host institute
      • 09:15
        Plan for the week 15m
        Speaker: Jari Likonen/Anna Widdowson
      • 09:30
        Introduction to LID-QMS diagnostic on JET, including type of data available, progress on results 30m
        Speaker: Miroslaw Zlobinski (FZJ)
      • 10:00
        Coffee break 15m
      • 10:15
        Introduction to LIBS on JET, including type of data available, progress on results 30m
        Speaker: Jari Likonen (VTT)
      • 10:45
        Comparison of LID-QMS and LIBS data 25m
        Speaker: Ionut Jepu (UKAEA)
      • 11:10
        Summary of actions and presentation of results 15m
        Speaker: Chair
    • 11:25 12:55
      Lunch break 1h 30m
    • 12:55 15:15
      Session 2: HFGC LH14W (2011-2023)
    • 09:00 10:15
      Session 3a: LIBS Quantification
    • 10:15 10:30
      Coffee 15m
    • 10:30 12:20
      Session 4: 14IW G1B (2011-2023)
      • 10:30
        LIBS surface composition (Be, C, O, W, Mo, other) 20m
        Speaker: Lidia Baiamonte (ENEA)
      • 10:50
        LIBS retention (T, D, H, other) 20m
        Speaker: Lidia Baiamonte (ENEA)
      • 11:10
        LIBS retention (T, D, H) 20m
        Speaker: Rongxing Yi (FZJ)
      • 11:30
        LID-QMS retention (T, D, H) 20m
        Speaker: Anna/Ionut.... (UKAEA)
      • 11:50
        Discussion 30m
    • 12:20 13:00
      Session 3b: LIBS quantification (continued)
      • 12:20
        Update on plans for ex-vessel LIBS for calibration 25m
        Speaker: Jari Likonen (VTT)
      • 12:45
        Discussion 15m
        Speaker: Chair
    • 13:00 14:00
      Lunch/Coffee break 1h
    • 09:00 09:40
      Session 3c: LIBS quantification (continued)
    • 09:40 12:00
      Session 5: LID-QMS Calibration
    • 12:00 13:00
      Visit to TDS lab
    • 13:00 14:00
      Lunch break 1h
    • 14:00 15:50
      Session 6: 14IWG1A (2019-2023)
      • 14:00
        LIBS surface composition (Be, C, O, W, Mo, other) 20m
        Speaker: Pavel Veis (CU)
      • 14:20
        LIBS retention (T, D, H, other) 20m
        Speaker: Pavel Veis (CU)
      • 14:40
        LID-QMS retention (T, D, H) 20m
        Speaker: Anna/Ionut.... (UKAEA)
      • 15:00
        LIBS retention (T, D, H) 20m
        Speaker: Gennady Sergienko (FZJ)
      • 15:20
        Discussion 30m
    • 19:30 21:30
      Social dinner at Restaurant NA FOJETTA
    • 09:00 10:45
      Session 7: HFGC RH14W (2011-2023)
      • 09:00
        LIBS surface composition (Be, C, O, W, Mo, other) 20m
        Speaker: Jelena Butikova (ISSP_UL)
      • 09:20
        LIBS retention (T, D, H, other) 20m
        Speaker: Jelena Butikova (ISSP_UL)
      • 09:40
        LIBS retention (T, D, H) 20m
        Speaker: Gennady Sergienko (FZJ)
      • 10:00
        Discussion 30m
        Speaker: All
      • 10:30
        Coffee break 15m
    • 10:45 11:45
      Session 8: Wrap up
      • 10:45
        Session 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Summary of analysis & actions 40m

        Hydrogen retention comparison between LIBS and LIDQMS

        • LIBS look into “second order” hydrogen band Littrow
        • LIBS shorter delay shots could give number of particle in ground state using calibration free method
        •           Provide total number of atoms in plasma
        •           Salvatore evaluate number atoms per laser shot
        • LIDQMS plot DT/HDT as an intermediate comparison (Anna) but ultimate aim is quantified data
        • LIBS total DT/HDT ratio (Rongxing)
        • Further efforts to focus on particular pulses (LIDQMS 855/856)/shots (LIBS 63)
        • Jari – send out atomic density data from IBA for HFGC tile

         

        LIBS quantification 

        • Consider calibration sample for VTT experiment
        •           There are “IAP samples” available
        •           Other samples that have IBA?
        •          Delay times with Littrow and Arielle will be investigated (as per JET experiment and shorter)
        • LIBS establish set of lines for analysis (currently not unified)
        • Include Avantes line for carbon at “900nm and something”
        • Calibration free analysis
        • Hydrogen concentration calculation – point 63
        •          18 December LIBS meeting online
        •           Salvatore to show how data was treated
        • Profilometery will be needed for ablation rate

        LIDQMS quantification

        Gennady

        -            gas puffs for pulse he showed at the meeting

        -            penning gauge analysis continued….

        o   H or D calibration for pennings in towers – some ambiguity of hydrogen isotope calibration

        -            RGA11 vs other RGAs? What pumping fraction is needed for RGA11?

        -            Other RGAs pumping fraction in 94%

        Gas injection  comparison of calibration methods

        -            Gennady and Gabriele to work on alternative calibration method

        -            25/9 start with this (others to consider later 4/10 and 28/10 (?)

        -            Check pulses and data on those data (Anna/Ionut to circulate pulse numbers)

        -            Need to treat the data in same way as calibration

                   Comparison with jump method (Laura/Anna)

        Conference and publications

        • Jari – VTT LIBS experiment – PSI
        • Jepu – RE damage on inner limiters – LIBS pulses required – PSI
        • Indrek – LIBS IWGL (Poloidal 2X3 and 2X9, 2X17) pulse supporting information on exposure – potentially TDS results – PSI
        • Gennady – Calibration procedure for LIBS – PSI
        • Anna – comparison of LID-QMS fuel retention with predictions – Hydrogen workshop
        • Laura – quantification of LID-QMS using ump method - Include 94%– publication & Hydrogen workshop
        • Lidia/Salvatore – depth profiling of HFGC & Tile1using LIBS – PSI
        • Pavel – Inner divertor calibration free analysis using LIBS – PSI
        • Pavel – Averaging and selection on spectrscopic lines for LIBS analysis (Methodology) – EMSLIBS
        • Miro – ex-situ LID-QMS on W-lammellae - PSI

         

        Successes

        • Analysis of pumping from Gennady brings LIDQMS closer to a quantified value
        • Similar trends in fuel retention across tiles
        • Quantification of LIBS using calibration free method
        • First absolute HI value in similar order of magnitude to LIDQMS
        • Machine learning algorithm progressed for HI
        • LIBS depth profiling of each group is converging
      • 11:25
        Final words 10m